Are Stars Really Far Away?

When I write how constellations prove earth is stationary, a globe defender usually responds with, “But the stars are really far away.”

I’m not sure how this would enable us to see stars that are behind us. The stars would be on the other side of the globe earth, if we were orbiting the sun.

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But let’s start with the embedded assumption:

Stars are far away. Says who? And why would they say that? Light years and trillions of miles are a hoax to support the idea that the universe is unfathomably huge. They want us to think we are a tiny speck in a vast universe. But there’s no evidence for that. They made up the numbers of the distances to the stars, and globers repeat those numbers without questioning.

When you look up information on constellations and stars, you have to wade through pages of disinformation about how old the star is, and how far away it is. It’s all conjecture at best, and a deliberate lie at worst.

Most of us bought the idea of far-away stars without much thought. But lately telescopic lenses have fallen into the hands of truth-seekers. And we can zoom in on stars.

And when we do, we discover 1) they look like twinkly lights, 2) they are colorful, and 3) they look like electrical energy reflecting through water.

stars nikon p900

The Nikon P900, 1000, and similar cameras with telescopic lenses have brought us a long way towards understanding stars. But even without these images available to us, if we were simply to observe stars with the naked eye, would we think stars are trillions of miles away? The whole idea is absurd. We’ve been told they are far away, through indoctrination, but there’s no evidence to support it.

Stars are lights in the sky, just as they appear to be. Some have investigated whether they are sonoluminescent (activated sound) and/or electromagnetic. What we observe of stars leads us to think they are close, not far.

 

24 Comments

  1. Star Constellations are viewed differently from different points on the Earth. Not all stars are visible from all positions on the earth at the same time during darkness. The further South one travels the more the night sky will change. Constellations appear upside down in the Southern Hemisphere compared to the Northern Hemisphere, the constellations remain stationary but our prospective of viewing the night sky becomes upside down depending on which Hemisphere that one is viewing the night sky from. This is due to our globe Earth and the stars being very far away.

    1. Thank you for your contribution. Constellations are viewed in reverse from the Northern and Southern latitudes, but to say it’s because of the globe is an assumption. Thanks again for posting!

  2. The Southern Cross and the two stars known as pointers form two lines that can be sighted together that provides a point in the sky providing the direction towards South. The Southern Cross was an instrumental means of navigating the Southern Oceans, so much so that many nations in the Southern Hemisphere incorporated it into their Nations flags. If the Earth was flat then the Southern Cross couldn’t provide a south bearing. On a flat Earth, the Southern Cross would be the Eastern Cross from South Africa and the western Cross from South America. But it is always the Southern Cross from wherever it is viewed in the Southern Hemisphere. The reason? The Southern Cross is a distant cluster of stars that is viewed on the opposite side of our Globe Planet.

    1. Thanks for your comment. The Southern Cross does not prove earth curves or spins. I appreciate your interest in Flat Earth!

  3. Another natural phenomena is the way that stars rotate in the Northern Hemisphere verses the Southern Hemisphere. The night sky rotates Counterclockwise in the Northern Hemisphere and Clockwise in the Southern Hemisphere. The sky doesn’t rotate but the Earth does. The reason that the stars are viewed rotating differently in opposite Hemispheres is due to prospective, the opposite Hemisphere orientates your view backwards from the other. Simply put, you are viewing the night sky upside down in the Southern Hemisphere verses the Northern Hemisphere.

    1. Hi hemp, remember the greatest type of ignorance form of ignorance is when reject something you know nothing about. Here is your answer https://youtu.be/igD6exr8_WA?t=129
      Every flat earther is very well informed about “the relion of Space” the least you could do is study what you are up against.

      this video will give you the mindset of a flat earther (a must before you understand)
      https://youtu.be/M4lSeSfI5gU

      then try debunking this video explaining the flat earth
      https://youtu.be/7KpUd5P10fU

      hope to hear from you

      Namaste 🙂

  4. Okay- you provide two propaganda videos that I am not even going to waist my time replying to. And a glass of water that creates a mirror image when filled with water.

    What on earth are thinking, these videos just cement my opinion that guys are an absolute joke. Provide me with something less comical.

    1. hi, sorry then. we are not trying to convince you. just let us be. you are too brain washed anyways to even have a conversation with you. just google this number “us6506148 b2” brain control is a real thing. or do a deep search on MK Ultra.

      THEY’VE GOT YOU, you are nothing but a NPC (non playable character) in this life because all the believe systems(materialistic, religion, race, countries, government, gender ect) that TV has programmed you.
      sounds crazy to you because sadly you have been told what to think your whole life. i get it, its easier to be told what to think.

      we are living a simulation type of world, that is what they are hiding (the real concept of reality)

      we are always happy to help any soul/consciousnesses that is awake and is willing to think/research for themselves.

      have a beautiful life.

      ps there is dome “firmament” on top of us.

  5. A dome – what heck are talking about?

    I explained the southern cross always shows south. The southern sky rotates opposite to the northern sky and the southern sky appears upside down verses the northern sky.

    All three of these statements can be tested and verified as fact. And all three can only be explained with our current knowledge of a globed planet. Finding reason in the natural world doesn’t make me brainwashed.

    If I acknowledged that these were facts and then I came up with some outrageous claim that they are illusions formed by a glass of water, then yes, I would be brainwashed.

    Crazy people don’t realize that they are crazy, they think that everyone around them are crazy. Brainwashed people think the same way.

    1. hello Hemp, we stopped believing nonsense when we stopped believing in space.

      can you answer this please?

      1. how can YOU prove that we are on a globe? without the help of any space agencies.
      2. how can YOU prove that we are expanding in space?
      3. how can YOU explain why the atmosphere does not get sucked up in space?

      THERE ARE NO REAL PICTURES OF PLANET EARTH. I dare you to look for only 1.
      Hard to believe that NASA makes $58,904,109. a DAY (enough of a reason to lie to you)

      all we ask is for people to think for themselves and stop repeating what they are told.

      Namaste 🙂

      https://spacenews.com/final-fiscal-year-2019-budget-bill-secures-21-5-billion-for-nasa/
      (https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-real-picture-of-the-earth-beside-CGI)

  6. Consciousnesses369,

    Humans calculated the shape of our planet and its circumference 2,000 years ago. They used the following means to come to their conclusions.

    1, Sticks of the same lengths placed vertically in the ground spaced apart create different length shadows, the difference in the length of the shadows can be used to calculate the earths shape and circumference.
    2. Off shore islands when viewed from sea level increase in height when viewed from the tops off hills. The distance of growth of the island compered to the height of the hill compared to sea level can be used to calculate the shape and circumference of the earth.
    3. Boats sailing away from the shore disappeared over the horizon

    Today,
    4. We have international travel, anyone with a couple of thousand dollars can fly from Southern nation directly to southern nation proving that the flat earth map is wrong.
    5. Hurricanes and cyclones rotate opposite directions on opposite hemispheres.
    6. See my previous posts on viewing the night sky from opposite hemispheres.
    7. The oceans tides, changing levels due to the force of the moons orbit around our planet.
    8. All means of navigation is taken off the globe earth. When your GPS gives you longitude and latitude navigation, it is taken off the globe earth.
    9. Friction caused in our outer atmosphere due to negative and positive gravity producing meteorites in our night sky.
    10. Most importantly – Science predicts future events, be it weather, our solar system, solar eclipse and tides from our knowledge of the globe earth.

    We don’t need to see images from space to know that our planet is a globe. After-all, the Ancient Greeks didn’t need space images, In-fact the Greeks didn’t have international travel or the means to whiteness the night sky from the Southern hemisphere. The Earth wasn’t divided into longitude and latitude lines or time zones for them. The evidence that we have today is so overwhelming that only a fool would claim that our earth is flat. After all, if the Greeks could work it out 2,000 years ago with sticks, why cant you work it out today?

    The images from space are just an added bonus.

    1. thank you for your opinion Hemp,

      but im not going to spend my time on an answer for you just so that you can respond this again “Okay- you provide two propaganda videos that I am not even going to waist my time replying to.”

      nothing that you provided us with proves a round Earth, clearly you are very dis-informed.
      NOTHING that you have said are news to us. every “flat earther” knows how your how the universe works better than the average person.

      I’ll just answer your first 3 bullet points

      1 – https://goo.gl/images/5YZmSY the sun is not 93 million miles away. just do a quick google search for “sun between clouds” think for yourself

      2- https://goo.gl/images/HJvvr7 they tell us that the earth is about 24,900 miles in circumference, with this we know the curvature of the earth should be 8 inches square per mile. there are count less examples of places that we should not be able to see due to the curvature. one example is being able to see the building across lake Michigan. (your TV news tell you that its a mirage)

      3- https://youtu.be/Gkzbx99vUhI lack of research my friend, clearly you don’t know anything about perspective and the reach of the human eye. just get a telescope and you’ll still be able to see your boat. no curvature, sorry.

      remember, “the highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you know nothing about and then refuse to investigate”

      its pointless to have a conversation if you ignore every response given to you.

  7. I cant believe in our current time and all of knowledge of science we are still having conversations on the shape of our earth. But here we go.

    Lets tackle one thing at time, stating with the Chicago sky line over lake Michigan.

    I have seen the photos of the Chicago skyline across lake Michigan and the flat earthers getting excited that they have photos proving that the earth is flat. One huge problem. The Chicago sky line cant be viewed on every clear day across the lake. It can only be viewed about twice a year when conditions are just right for viewing it. Viewing Chicago is an anomaly, The reason it cant be seen for most of the year is because it is behind the horizon (The curvature of our planet). Light curves creating an mirage, the image of Chicago is reflected above the horizon. Mirages are common, and the mirage image is always hazy and distorted.

    There is an island on the horizon from where I live. Most days I can only just make out the shape of the island on the horizon. But about twice a year the island appears larger and closer showing more of the islands features. I know that the island isn’t growing or getting closer, even though I didn’t understand mirages when I was younger, I knew the image was altered due to the sun and reflection. It would have been foolish of me if I based my opinion’s off the anomaly. Yet that is what flat earthers do, they base opinions off an anomalies all the time, Foolish.

    1. not a mirage
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tv4hyKx7Vs

      vacuum created inside a plunger can lift up a table and defy the gravity of the whole planet. funny the whole vacuum of space can suck up the particles in the atmosphere from the planet. now that is an anomaly

      ps
      talking about the atmosphere
      https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/if-this-space-study-is-right-humans-have-never-left-earths-atmosphere

      you can continue to BELIEVE whatever you want to BELIEVE, since you never been to space nor felt the movement of the earth.

  8. You claim that the sun is in the clouds. If you have been on jet liner you will notice at 35,000′ you are above all of the clouds, the sun is above you by miles. If the sun is in the clouds do airliners have to work out where it is so they don’t hit it when taking off? Of course not. The sun is 93, million miles away. How do we know this?

    Science is nothing more than viewing our natural world and forming theory off observation. Example, we look for patterns, planets circling the night sky, once patterns are formulated, the next step is predicting patterns so we know that we are correct in our theory. We can do this with our Solar System, we calculate when and where planets will come into view because we understand the planets orbits around their fixed object (The sun). Now the distance of the planets from the sun can be formulated. The Earths distance from the sun can be formulated, the speed of the earth’s orbit and the circumference of the sun can be formulated.

    There is plenty of information stating when planets will be visible from your location in the night sky. Buy yourself a telescope and look at the coordinates that you are given. Then ask yourself this question, how did they calculate the exact time and location of the planets.

    Now go on your crazy flat earth web sites and ask them to provide you the same information. I guarantee that you will get nothing but garbage about how brainwashed you are for asking the question. Then ask yourself, who is brainwashed?

    1. you are right Hemp, “Science is nothing more than viewing our natural world and forming theory off observation.” and when you start to study this patterns they just don’t add up, have you study the night stars yourself?

      flat earth was a big thing up till the 1900’s, then universal studios and many other cinema studios started to show a round planet on TV. TV was designed to misinform people. not everybody believed in the flat earth then NASA “landed a man on the moon to convince the whole world (if you believe that we actually landed on the moon. then provably you have not seen the evidence saying otherwise)

      this 10 min video will convince that flat earth was the dominant theory up to the 1900 hundreds when humanity stopped thinking and started to told what to believe through repetitions in TV

      https://youtu.be/IIB2UD3DHXA

      most of our ancient civilizations believed we lived in a flat planet reality (they called this reality an illusion) we have the ability to leave and choose our reality through meditation, our Chakra system and our pineal gland. Our pineal gland produces DMT a level 1 drug almost in every country. The water that you drink and food that you eat (fluoride is in everything) GMO’s, chem trail, vaccines, medication etc makes your pineal gland shut off trough calcification. then causing your body malfunction through many deceases (cancer being one of them).

      i can’t do all the research for you but ODD reality is good youtube channel to start at.

      anybody can decide what to believe, a big bang theory, an evolution theory, a gravity theory and think of them as laws and ignore everything else. or just have an open mind, remember…

      what if?

      love you hemp, have a beautiful life.

  9. Ancient society’s did believe that they lived on a flat earth. They only had basic observations to base their opinions on. The Earth looks flat there for it might be flat.

    Luckily we live in a time of science and reason and not backwards religious ideas.

    Only when flat earthers can predict future natural occurrences as we do with the globe earth can flat earthers have any ounce of credibility. Until then, enjoy your globe earth.

    Love you too.

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