1. Hi Stacey, I’ve listened to your pod casts and you are a very intelligent person so I can’t believe how you keep on believing in all this flat earth stuff, if youve got enough evidence that the earth is flat why don’t you team up with an international financial backer and sue Nasa and anyone else who says it’s round as you would get billions in compensation but you don’t and won’t so why not ?

    1. She is not just “believing in all this FlatEarth stuff”, she & others of the FE movement are seeking & pouring down the facts & evidence for both the globe deception & FlatEarth reality. Go research for yourself to be sure your own belief system is truth & facts filled, after that, (for your love of sue-ing), you should come back to sue her or me for leading you to reality, or hopefully if grounds have changed, you’ll sue NASA yourself.
      Warm Regards.

      1. I’ve done some research myself in the past as I flew on concorde at 60,000ft and I’ve seen the curve of the earth for myself also there’s flight experience companies where you can go on a on military aircraft and fly on the fringes of the earth and see the round earth for yourself,

    2. Who is going to pay the billion in compensation that you are making-up? The fake round spinning ball, with an unproven tilt and movement is as made-up as the billions in compensation you talk about. The flat earth is reality so keep your made-up things to yourself. Also, you can convince yourself that you think you’ve seen curvature but there is none so either your eyes are tricking you or your mind is.

      1. Stacey,
        Just like you, I’ve been on the flat plane and this will never change. Also, in Florida, but that’s flat too.

      2. You and I both know all images of a round earth are fake. Nothing can get high enough to take an entire-earth image. It’s all part of the deception you freely accept into your life.

        Since it is factual we live on a flat and stationary earth, every-single-photo taken of the earth from the ground, air, or simply the outdoors is a flat earth photo of the earth. I can present the facts and reality, but I can’t make you accept it. Acceptance only comes from you.

      3. Movement proven by the Michelson, Gale, Pearson experim,ent.

        The flat earth is unproven belief and nothing more.

      4. I don’t have time to waste with someone who is so deeply programmed as yourself. I will post a response to those who are reading your post and my response.

        Fizeau, Arago, Fresnel, Airy, Michelson, Lorentz, Miller, Gale, Miller, Sagnac, Foos, and most recently Boedel proved the earth was stationary through their experiments. Miller was so obsessed to prove movement that he repeated his experiments 100,000 times but the results remained the same. Sagnac, Foos, and Boedel. confirmed the aether moves 15 degrees per hour. If you want to provide the exact wording of the experiments you cite that dictate the experiments prove the earth is a spinning ball, go right ahead. There is no such thing.

        Coriolis is a gimmick and has no affect on bullets, the rifling found on the barrels of guns have more influence than the coriolis gimmick. If you find some coriolis in any 1000 yard bullet experiment you have conducted yourself, I will take the time to slowly review your report and then explain that you have no idea what you are doing.

        Cavendish experiments proves nothing. So what if a couple of weights move on a string? One would think the fake gravity of the earth would over-power the influence of a couple small balls. Nobody knows the size of the earth, how much it weighs, and where the elusive “center” might be. The Schiehallion experiments is nothing worth looking at since it’s meaningless.

        Nothing gets higher than about 25 miles from the surface of earth. If you think there is curvature at that height, you are being overly optimistic that there is curvature. A camera has a slight barrel distortion and the horizon near the top of the camera will show a convex horizon, and a horizon near the bottom will show a concave distortion. Also, the field of view of a person is roughly 45 degrees from center both to the far left and far right. At the far left and the far right, there is 25% more air with moisture that optically bends the far left and far right down from the center’ position. If one moves there eyes to the left, for example, the center of the field of view changes and the far left and far right also move and may also show a slight downward perception. It’s all refraction due to the distance through air with moisture. Optical “illusions” are meaningless.

        GPS is land based towers since the 1940s and always will be. You are programmed to thing gps is provided from others means. If if could be more direct and blunt about GSP being land based towers I would be.

        Nothing has gotten more than about 25 miles from our flat and stationary earth. Nothing has been to the moon or mars. And nothing is headed to the sun. You are easily influenced if you think otherwise. Since nothing has ever been on the moon, there are no reflectors where you have been programmed to think they are.

        Antarctic is an ice and land structure around the perimeter of earth. Your expeditions are hearsay, unverifiable, and not worth another second of my time.

        Are you f*cking serious? Did you just say leap year? I have no words for that.

        The apparent sun is not where the actual sun is that you think you see. As the conditions of our atmosplane carry the apparent position of the sun, the sun will appear to rise in the east and set in the west on the 2 equinoxes each year. That’s the conditions that we have to accept for not having the ability to see our actual sun at most times – just the apparent sun. I know this is way over your head but I don’t care.

        Something happens with solar and lunar eclipses. Nobody knows and if they know, they are not letting the gullible, non-thinking, naive people know. The stationary earth, that has been established since 1871, has no part in what happens to the what people consider “eclipses”. You should make the effort to find out the causes of eclipses instead of relying on others to tell you how and what to think.

        Arctic has a 24 hours sun. It’s likely the antarctic does too. See my response above about the apparent sun above. It’s a little more complicated than that but I’m certain my explanation will be way above your comprehension level so I’m not going to waste my time.

        Airy’s failure, confirmed the earth is stationary and the aether (which includes the sun, stars, and moon) move. A dozen other experimenters after him confirmed his results and even determined the aether moves about the earth at 15 degrees per hour.

        Expeditions are expeditions and I didn’t even take the time to look that up. I don’t deal with expeditions; I only deal with facts.

        Seeing farther if one is higher up is nonsensical and I can’t believe I have to even say that. If one is lower, they will see less. This is a physics fact.

        Sunrise and sunset are incorrect. The sun comes into view and leaves a persons view dependent where they are and it’s all about perspective. The sun doesn’t rise or set; it’s always at a specific height above our flat earth.

  2. Flat earthers always talk about government cover ups ,but why would they have to lie about the shape of the earth to the public ?, it doesn’t matter what shape our planet is as it doesn’t affect anyone’s personal lives whatsoever, you would still be going to work everyday and living your lives exactly the same regardless of shape and even if you travel, airplanes can fly high over everything anyway so it doesn’t matter about the shape, so what are the governments actually covering up ?

    1. Who cares what their motive is to lie? You and I are not those lying about things. You would have to go to the liars to find out what their motive is.

      If your wife is having an affair with 3 other guys the entire time you are married to her but you don’t know about it, what’s the big deal? You would still be going to work and living your life exactly as if she was not having those affairs. If you are ok with people being deceptive to you, that simply means you have low standards and little respect for yourself.

      When we allow those in power to lie to us, that means we accept it and invite being lied to. I don’t accept those lies for one second, but I don’t regulate or manage your deception tolerance.

      1. I know you all think every picture of the Round earth is fake, so when are we going to see a photo of the flat earth?

      2. This is the last reply you’ll receive. Your programming is so tightly wound within you it can’t be undone. You will live and die a life where you think you live on a spinning ball because you were programmed with that and were too weak to question those who indoctrinated you with that information.

  3. What about next year when Richard Branson starts his Virgin space flights, all the passengers will be able to see the round earth for themselves and if you also think he’s deceiving them, he’s only a single businessman so why don’t the flat earthers take him to court then

    1. Nothing gets more than about 30 miles or so above our flat earth and that requires high altitude balloons. Rocket and plane limitations are even less. Let’s talk about your fantasy and illusion when you think it has materialized. I don’t talk about fantastical dreams others sell to those like you who want to be lied to.

      I encourage everyone to think on their own and avoid letting others think for you.

  4. The flat earth makes for an interesting discussion. But the globe earth model maps out and predicts future events to the an exact minute, such as when a solar a eclipse will appear and at the exact location. Only when flat earthers can also predict future events based on their flat earth model can they start to be taken seriously. I would love to see the crazy math that flat earthers would have to formulate to show trade winds, flow of tides, seasons and explaining why the Antarctic is light for six months during summer and dark six months during the winter. All of this can easily be explained with the global earth model. If something makes sense then it is most likely the correct. The earth is a globe.

    1. There are predictions but you are making an assumption that the predictions are interrelated and based upon a certain model. That assumption is an assumption until it is no longer an assumption. I contend that the predictions are based on our actual world and is not based on an assumptive model. The actual shape of our earth guides the predictions of the events you so dearly hold as those of the round spinning ball – but that is only based on the assumption the earth is a round spinning ball. If there were proof the earth was round or moving, you would present it. Since the shape has not been confirmed, don’t assume an unproven model is the basis for predictions.

  5. What do you mean the shape is not confirmed, there’s pictures film and live footage on line right now that show it’s round lol.when are we going to see your pictures of the flat earth ?

    1. A magician can conduct tricks in front of a live audience and the entire audience is fooled. If you think you are seeing real images of earth, you are as fooled as all the people in the magician’s audience. I don’t necessarily blame you because tricking people is easy. It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they’ve been fooled.

    2. Predictions have nothing to do with science. For example, if birds fly south during one period of the year and then fly north for another period of the year and this repeats twice a year forever, that is not science, that’s just observing something and knowing it’s going to happen again and again because it happened forever with no variance. Whether birds fly south or north has no bearing on the shape of our earth. Somehow you think predicting something is the necessary event to confirm the shape of the earth. Storms don’t confirm the shape of the earth and warnings of storms don’t confirm the shape of the earth. Those people who get notice of a storm in florida, however, do leave their state which is essentially flat, just like all the water and the rest of the land – other than hills and valleys.

      You are fooled to believe the earth is round that you think the predictions and weather events are determined by a round earth model. Everybody was fooled. It’s those who realize they are being fooled and do something about it that’s important. Continue absorbing the lies and being weak-minded so you can still believe the stories that you’ve been told.

      Because this article is Flat Earth by the Numbers, I will guide you back on track. There is ZERO evidence earth curves or spins; and there are ZERO things that have been to space. The model that has been pushed onto you needs curve and needs things to have gotten to space. Find some proof of curve or things getting to space and when you aren’t successful, you might be able to figure it out. If you want, I’ll review the proof you rely upon to let you know if it’s proof or not.

      1. Photos taken of the earth yars before CGI was developed show the curvature of the earth as do photos of the transmission lines that cross lake Pontchartrain.

        The Michelson, Gale, Pearson experiment proved the rotation of the earth 92 years ago.

        Lasers bounced off reflectors left on the moon prove we have gotten into space.

  6. My argument is simple, good science forms theory that can be supported and verified. Great science can predict future events, this is the ultimate evidence that the science is correct. The globe earth model produces such results. This is true for weather patterns, science predicts the travel of storms and the severity of storms based on a globe earth model. Science predicts tides and level of tides based on the globe earth model. Science predicts El Nino weather patterns based on the globe earth model. Science predicts the moon cycle based on the globe earth model.

    Surly you can agree that the flat earthers would have to formulate an accurate means of calculating and predicting these same natural occurrences for your flat earth model to hold any ounce of credibility. My guess, when the meteorologist warns that a cat 5 hurricane is hitting the Florida coast, people don’t waist their time consulting the flat earthers to get their opinion on which way the storm will travel. They high tail out of there based on information provided by the experts using the globe earth model.

  7. Did you see the two Antarctic explorers on the news today that trekked all the way across and never once came across any any security guards or saw the edge of the earth

    1. You sure are easily fooled. There is absolutely no proof anybody was close to the antarctica, but when people tell you that, you believe it like it’s real. Hahahhahhahaha

      1. It eats at you that more than one person has crossed Antarctica in a north south direction, proving that Antarctica is a continent not an ice wall, there is no dome and the earth isn’t flat

  8. Quanta’s have a flight leaving the 31st flying over the south pole, another in January 2019 and then another in February 2019. There are plenty of opportunities for you to take one of these flights. I checked, bookings are still available. Just $1,600 for an isle seat. Love to hear from you after your trip.

    1. Remove the street signs from the northern part of the state of minnesota, the street signs from the provinces and territories in canada, and all signs in alaska. I’ll drive you over 15 hours and I want you to tell me where you are with 100% accuracy. I assure you that your accuracy rate will be zero because I will have taken you to Wyoming and you would have no idea you were there. Hahahhahahahahahhahhahahhahaha Would I fool you? For your own good I would. No flights go to antarctica. Quanta will arrive at a location north of the 60th parallel and tell the people they are in antarctica. Quanta is in on the hoax to control your mind and your prior post has just confirmed that they have succeeded in controlling your mind.

      Remember, this article is about flat earth by the numbers and the numbers support the earth is flat. You are fooled and you refuse to accept you are fooled.

    2. That ‘science’ you speak/state of is the ‘Saros Cycle’. This has been around longer than the ancients, only to be known by the very elect, at a time when Globe Earth, hadn’t been thought of. You like to throw strawman arguments, without backing any worth or truce. I feel really bad for proglobulists, because they are demonstrating incredulous confabulations, as absolute reality. I condone your willingness to research this topic, though you’ll have more minds work together on the Globe model, because the Powers that are, will not fund nor support TRUE SCIENCE and truth, because it will expose them, and will retribute themselves into dire consequences. Your outtake on this topic, leaves me confused, why you are promoting your subscription on the Globe theory. You state that FEr’s have no formulae for FE model, though FEr’s have debunked your Globe theory formulae 8″ per M2. Also distances of our peak celestial bodies, have been heavily skewed, in a sense, it’s forever changing their figures, to suit their agendas and narratives. The difference between Ge and FE is that A FEr never shoves and forces their knowledge or beliefs of the Cosmos, to unwilling victims of propaganda, like how the Globe model does(school, MS Science, Hollywood (magick wand), MS media, ect). Though a FEr never minds the choice you make, except if you’re trolling for the Mainstream establishment, that you sacrifice your trust to.

      1. -The Michelson, Gale, Pearson experiment
        -The coriolis effect on bullets fired 1000 yards
        -The Cavendish experiment
        -The Schiehallion experiment
        -Photos of the earth from space showing the curve Pre-CGI
        -GPS in use where no undersea cables have ever been run and 23 years before the first cell towers were erected
        -Lasers bounced off reflectors left on the moon
        -Expeditions that have crossed Antarctica in a north south direction.
        -The ISS photographed from the ground by amateurs.
        – The leap day every 4 years
        -The sun at every point on the equator during each equinox
        – The Antarctic midnight sun.
        -Airy’s Failure
        -Solar and Lunar eclipses
        -The 1979-82 British Trans-Globe expedition
        -Seeing farther with greater height

  9. Instead of making false claims on what airlines don’t fly and where they don’t go. Book the flight. Take a compass with you and prove to yourself that you are correct. There are numerous scientists stationed in Antarctic, numerous explorers have been and numerous previous customers have taken the Qantas flight and have comments on line about their trip. I urge you to get off the couch, take the flight yourself and educate yourself on the actual known world, Some conspiracy’s are hard to prove, But which flights do and don’t exist and where they travel to is easy to prove or dis-prove, simply take the flight, pack a chart and compass. Do some research before making outlandish claims.

    If you prove that you have been miss-lead and the plane didn’t cross magnetic south pole as the airline claims, then you get your money back and you’ve lost nothing. If you do cross magnetic south pole, you have just gained knowledge on what the rest of us already know, the earth is a globe. Nothing to loss, just hole to lot to gain.

    1. Compasses prove nothing. Snow and ice look that same at one location as snow and ice looks at other locations. It’s easy to fool people and you are living proof of that. I’ve written and mapped all the stations, bases, and research facilities in antarctica and you can enjoy where there actual locations that contradict the lies you hold dear to your heart. https://flat-earth.blog/2018/06/25/coordinates-dont-lie/

      I have better things to do than to assist a single lost soul such as yourself so don’t feel too bad if I don’t respond to your gullibility again.

  10. I won’t respond again. I recently heard that some people believe the earth to be flat. I didn’t believe that such people in this day in age could exist. I found this web site in my curiosity and thought I would just send something out there to see if this was serious or a joke. You have confirmed that there are people out there that actually believe the earth to be flat. I figured with the large amount of evidence out there it would be impossible for a flat earthers to have a case. But now I understand, you simply dismiss all evidence calling it fake. I will leave you alone to enjoy your goofy flat earth.

    1. Dear Ian,

      Thanks for stopping by. I know the earth is flat, and I haven’t seen any evidence to the contrary. The only images that exist of the globe are CGI and Photoshop. I really appreciate you checking out my site!

  11. You can also pay to learn how to fly airliners yourself privately so you could then disprove airlines publicly , but I don’t see any flat earthers doing it why?

  12. Dear Stacey,

    I wasn’t going to respond again but your comment requires a response. Nasa states that their photos have been photo shopped, this is part of the honesty of Nasa. Secondly, of course the photos have been altered. The satellites are just outside of the earths orbit, there is no way to fit the earth into the camera lens, if Nasa scaled down to get the earth to fit into the lens then the image would be so small, it would be rendered worthless, there would be no detail. So Nasa takes many small pictures and photo shops them together. This is not a conspiracy or miss-leading, Nasa is completely open and honest about this fact. There is a one photo of the earth taken from Apollo that hasn’t been photo shopped. But lets face it, if flat earthers were taken up in Sir Richard Branson’s Virgin space ship and were all blessed seeing the spender of the globe earth with your own eyes, they would still come back to earth asking how they were tricked.

    I ask one simple task of flat earthers, tell me when and where the next solar eclipse will occur. I can formulate the answer knowing the rotation and orbit of the earth, calculating the orbit of the moon around the earth and then finally calculate the exact time and location when all of these factors line up with the sun. How would a flat earther calculate this?

    Your email to me was very polite and apricated, I hope I haven’t come across to cold in my response.


    1. Dear Ian,

      Our ancestors predicted eclipses accurately for centuries based on the flat earth model. They knew the earth was flat, and the powers that be use the same calculations to predict eclipses now.

      Sincerely, Stacey

  13. Stacey,

    I will agree that our ancestors may have seen patterns and made approximate guesses on when an eclipse may happen, and time to time may have got close with their guesses. But with our current knowledge of the globe earth. Rotation of the earth, earths orbit around the sun and the moons orbit around the earth, our predictions are extremely accurate. The next full eclipse will happen on June 2nd at 12:55 pm, and will be visible from north Chile and North Argentina. I would love to know how the ancients could predict the next solar eclipse with such accuracy. The formula to calculate the eclipse is out there for anyone to test and verify. Once again, how could you calculate the next solar eclipse based on the flat earth model to the same level of accuracy as we do with the globe earth model?

    I have been researching some flat earth stuff, I came across a map of the flat earth. The north pole is in the center of the map and Antarctica makes up the southern perimeter of the disc. I’m from the southern hemisphere, I can assure you that this disc map is wrong. The southern hemisphere distances are off by thousands of miles, the disc map isn’t close to reality.

    Able Tasman (Dutch explorer) navigated the southern oceans in the late 17th century, Then the English, Spanish, and French explored and mapped the southern ocean. Charts were formed by the mid 18th century of the entire southern pacific ocean. The charts weren’t far off from our current charts that we use today. At the latter part of the 18th century, American whalers sailed down the American coast and cut over to New Zealand and Antarctica using the charts of the day.

    Today, private owned boats are sailed all over the southern ocean, private planes and jets are traveling all over the southern ocean, Airliners have direct flights from southern nations to southern nations. Cruise liners are traveling all over the southern ocean. And all of them are using charts showing longitude and latitude lines based off the globe earth.

    This is a big problem for the flat earthers, not only do they have to accuse Nasa of lying, but they would also have to accuse early explorers, the whalers, all airlines flying over the southern oceans and pilots including private pilots, sea captains, passengers on the cruise ships, customers of the airliners, and the thousands of privately owned boats sailing all over the southern oceans. If you do believe that all these folks are participating in some type of grand elaborate cover-up, how could it possibly be covered up for the last three hundred years?

    I would love to hear your response.


  14. Thanks for that Ian, believe me the flat earthers will still say everything was a lie for the last 300 years lol

  15. Keith,

    Thanks mate. You are correct, they will come up with some crazy explanation to explain that everything is a conspiracy. I don’t know why I’m wasting my time with this. But at least Stacey is respectful of our opinions and allows us to comment on her site. That Rokro111 was a little hard to take. Every time he got aggravated he resulted to calling me gullible. He think Rokor111 needs a dictionary and look up the meaning of the word gullible. But then again, everybody is entitled to their opinion, even flat earthers.

    Keeping loving our beautiful globe earth my friend.


  16. Hi Ian, Stacey actually blocked me on twitter which is sad also even yesterday on the news there’s film of apace and the Chinese moon lander landing on the moon and believe me China are not friends with trump and the USA and will definitely not be involved in any globe earth conspiracy (I’m Keith pain on twitter and Facebook as well)

  17. Keith,

    yea, they claim that there is no evidence for the globe earth, people present evidence and then the conversation stops, and they go back to their reticules claims that evidence doesn’t exist. Oh well, their loss. The natural world is far more magnificent than their made up flat world where everybody has to be accused of lying to keep the fallacy going. You would think that if they had to re-invent science and math and history to make their model work, they would realize that their model is wrong, and go back to the globe earth model where everything calculates and makes sense.

    I was going to explain meridians, time zones and the magnetic fields, explain how these natural phenomena’s work and explain that these phenomena’s can only work as they do with a globe earth. Instead, l will spend my time communicating to those that are capable of conversation and rational thought.


  18. I think we got a couple of ballers here making out. Ian and his m8 Keith Pain. Gees what trolls, like they have no real investigative proof, just a couple of science journos, and they think they are enlightened with truth. Funny that they don’t know that they are being PAWNED as the puppets they act out to be. Worse thing that they are more than unlikely to be paid , shilling FE sites.
    The jokes on them. They really believe and trust that nothing nefarious can come from mainstream, and BTW, I’m from the South. I observe the sun’s rise (visually deceptive) and set from the south (E&W) during Summer then equinox returns the annalen back to ALWAYS north of me as observed during autumn and winter. Though people’s Globe model wouldn’t allow this phenomena to occur, unless it were observed in the tropics, which I’m a great distance from…. Yes there are Flaws in the AE map, so is there of BOTH the Globe and Mercator models. It’s just we live in a supernatural world, of a creator, that science completely dismisses and ignores. Throwing statements like, Pilots, Sailors, Scientists, Whalers????, and the customers themselves of these vessels that transports travelling throughout Southern Ocean, As Proof for Ian’s model, suggests to me he cannot name actual names, that support his garbage theory……..

  19. You don’t need any theories or experiments, just go on you ISS Space station you tube channel right now and go on the live feed to see the Round earth for yourself Right Now lol

  20. GlobeKrusha,

    We can predict numerus natural occurrences using the circumference, rotation, axis and orbit of our planet.

    We also know the orbit and rotation of the other planets in our solar system, we even know the orbit of their moons. All of this knowledge produces amazing results, we can calculate when the next Solar and Lunar Eclipse will occur and where planets and their moons will be visible for viewing from the earth at any given time and location. All of this information is available to everyone, and it’s all easily verified.

    Flat earthers should be mocked and ridiculed until they can provide their calculations and formulas producing the same real world results with their flat earth.

    Where are all the flat earth Meteorologists? Who is sailing the worlds oceans using a flat earth map? Which professor is teaching Geography using the flat earth map? Where are all the flat earth Astronomers?

    Your friend,

  21. True, the flat earthers could sail round the world getting physical evidence of the edge etc but they don’t also a weather balloon with a camera could take photos of a possible flat earth or show that you can’t go any higher than 25 miles but yet again they don’t, why

  22. rokro

    You have researched insufficiently so you conclusions are in error

    Airy actually found that a small amount of tipping was necessary and though he dismissed it, any amount of tipping proved the earth was in motion
    Michelson – Morley proved there is no Aether and so the experiments that supposedly show the Aether in motion actually show the earth in motion
    Michelson, Gale and Pearson, using a Sagnac type inferometer found that the angular velocity (rotation) of the earth is as astronomy says.

    If the Coriolis were because of the barrel then the shots would be off identically regardless of the direction he gun is fired. In reality, what we find is firing North the shots are left of center, East the shots are above center, South the shots are right of center and West the shots are below center.

    Both the Cavendish and Schiehallion experiments, repeated many times, have proven gravity for more than 200 years.

    Amateur rockets have gotten above 25 miles

    Refraction only bends something when light travels from water to air or air to water. Objects like the lake Pontchartrain transmission lines and the bridge curve because the earth curves.

    GPS has been in use since 1960 not the 1940’s. The towers you refer to did not transmit inland but only a limited distance in the direction of the ocean. None of them had the range to reach Antarctica yet GPS has been in use in Antarctica since 1960.

    Since you don’t accept expeditions, those that discovered America are just hearsay and America doesn’t exist by your logic.

    Antarctica as an ice wall has not been proven

    A leap day every 4 years is required to keep our calendar accurate. Show us how a leap day works on a flat earth. You can’t as your lack of words shows.

    On both equinoxes, at every point on the equator, the sun rises at 90 degrees, sets at 270 degrees and moves in a perfectly straight path between the two. Show us how that works on a flat earth.

    Seeing farther as one rises in height is not based on physics. Take for example that if your eyes are 6 feet off the ground you see about 3 miles. If you stand on a 4 foot box you see almost 4 miles. In that 4 feet everything remains the same as it did when you weren’t standing on the box and so there is no change in the physics yet you see farther.

    Sunrise/Sunset. The interesting thing is you can look where the sun would be just before it rises or where it was just before sunset and not see the sun, yet you can look behind you and see sunlight on the clouds at say 3 miles distance. If you can see the sunlight reflecting off clouds that are farther from the sun than you then you would be able to see the sun itself as you are closer to it. This shows something physical is blocking the sun.

    What we have learned from your response is that each section is a failure leading to your entire comment being an epic failure.

      1. You have a history of ignoring facts, evidence, logic and critical thought. Not looking at my post doesn’t alter the validity of what I have posted.

      2. The name of this article is “flat earth by the numbers” which quite frankly are entrenched in facts and reality. If they are not, one would be addressing the subject matter of this article instead of the ad hominem attacks upon me.

        When you can’t attack the solid facts of the article such as “zero evidence of spin”, “zero things have been to space”, and “93 million alleged miles to the sun”, just get distracted and attack the other person. Instead of talking about me, one should try to present facts that counter the simple factual points brought up in this article.

        If people cannot focus on the subject of the article, their comment(s) will be discarded as irrelevant and not worthy of a response. You’ll have to realize that when you get distracted and talk about me instead of the article’s content, I am not making your comments irrelevant an unworthy of a response – you are.

    1. I don’t care. People who are programmed to believe they living on a spinning ball don’t have my respect and are not worth my time.

      1. You have been indoctrinated by flat earth logic, posts, websites and videos. Even though flat earth “evidence” has been refuted, your conditioning doesn’t allow you to see the truth.

      2. When a person’s post begins with the words “you” or “this tactic of yours”, it means the author is using an ad hominem attack and is not discussing the subject of this article. Instead, that person is attacking the other person. Those responses will be ignored every single moment of the day.

  23. Rokro,

    This tactic of yours to keep repeating how gullible the world is for not believing this flat earth stuff. Is this how you got sucked into it. Somebody kept telling you that you had been fooled by NASA. I guess you were to weak to see through the smoke screen. Looks like you have completely isolated yourself from reality.

    Sad. Oh well, the weak are suckers.

  24. Rokro,

    You ignore all evidence presented to you. You even comment that you ignore entire posts followed with claims that anyone that has an objective view point to yours are gullible and have brainwashed. Calling people gullible isn’t nice, so people aren’t nice to you in return. Do you see the pattern?

    I know it must be frustrating for you having explain your nonsense to rational people, but as long as people like you make insane claims, you have to expect to be ridiculed. And you should be ridiculed.

    Science and reason are important. You aren’t.

    1. Your first 2 sentences start with the word, “you” indicating your are involved in an ad hominem attack so your entire post was ignored as being just that.

  25. Rokro,

    The decision not to read a previous post of mine resulted in you not knowing I already responded to the supposed “flat earth solid facts” showing them to be neither solid nor facts. The decision you made to ignore my previous post which stayed on topic and addressed the the material while reading and addressing posts of mine that had nothing to do with the topic clearly shows you have no desire to address the posts that stay on topic.

    1. This article is not about me and is not about who reads a post or not. I ignored your entire post as meaningless.

      1. It is a reply to your comment about people staying on topic and explaining to you that it has already been done, If my reply is meaningless then so is your comment that my reply was addressing.

      2. The subject of this article is not about me. Since your entire post is an ad hominem attack upon me, that post was ignored too. Posts that are related to this article will be addressed; off-topic rants, ad hominem attacks, and things that are not related to this article will be completely disregarded as appropriate.

        When one writes a post, they should stop, think, and review their post before pressing the “post comment” button to see if their post is relevant and on-topic.

      3. Rokro

        The entirety of the post you have ignored has been deemed by you as an ad hominem attack upon you. Since almost all of the post deals with the topic, you are incorrect. The first line of the post brings into question the amount of research you have done. Research is not part of your character and so can not be ad hominem.

      4. The post you ignored dealt with the topic. Ignoring it, you could not properly assess that it is meaningless.

      5. The post you ignored dealt with the topic and so wasn’t meaningless but your declaration that it is meaningless is in itself meaningless.

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